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Valley Pool Tables: Used Value, Models and Moving

Updated Oct 15, 2026 · The LeaguePool Team

A used Valley pool table is usually worth less than people hope and more than the work it needs. Worn bar Valleys trade for about $200 to $500, a clean playable one for roughly $400 to $1,000, and a table with upgraded rails and new cloth, or a dealer refurb, for about $1,000 to $1,700. Add a few hundred dollars to move it, because it's a 650-to-865-pound slate table.

Valley is the coin-op bar table most American league players learned on. The company has built six-pocket coin-op tables since 1954, owns the VNEA league, and supplies most of the tables APA matches are played on. That huge installed base is why so many come up for sale, and why prices stay modest. Below: who makes Valley, what one is worth by condition, how to tell which one you're looking at, and how to take one apart and move it.

Quick answer: A worn used Valley bar table sells for roughly $200 to $500, a solid playable one for about $400 to $1,000, and one with new rails and cloth or a dealer refurbishment for about $1,000 to $1,700. These figures come from owner and dealer reports, not a price guide, and vary by region. Budget extra for a move, new cloth (about $300) and possibly rails, and remember new Valley Panther tables list for several thousand dollars.

Who makes Valley pool tables

Valley started in Bay City, Michigan, and took its name from the Saginaw Valley. Sources disagree on the founding date: RePlay Magazine says Earl Feddick started Valley Manufacturing Co. in a garage in 1935, building wooden toys, while Wikipedia gives 1947. Both agree on the date that matters for pool players, 1954, when Valley began building its six-pocket coin-op tables.

Ownership passed through Kidde, U.S. Industries and Fenway Partners while production stayed in Bay City.
1999: Valley merged with Tornado Table Sports and Dynamo and moved operations to Richland Hills, Texas. That's why Valley and Dynamo tables share parts and a company today.
2003: Brunswick bought the company as Valley-Dynamo. In 2006 production moved to Reynosa, Mexico.
2009: Kelye Stites, owner of Champion Shuffleboard, bought it and moved pool table production back to Texas.
2022: Valley-Dynamo bought Ridgeback Rails, a well-known maker of replacement bar-box rails, and moved that production to Richland Hills in early 2023.

Valley-Dynamo is still based in Richland Hills, and current Panther tables are listed as built there. The company created and owns the Valley National 8-Ball League Association (VNEA), and most APA matches, including the APA championships, are played on Valley-Dynamo tables. If you play bar league, a Valley at home is the closest thing to practicing on league equipment. Our Valley vs Diamond page compares the two league tables.

What a used Valley pool table is worth

There is no published price guide for used Valleys. These bands come from owner reports on AZBilliards (2022 and 2023), a dealer refurbisher's prices and our own neighbor guides, so treat them as a starting point and check sold listings near you.

Condition	Typical price	What you're getting
Worn out: dead rails, torn or burned cloth	About $200 to $500	A slate bed and a cabinet. Plan on rails or rubber, cloth and some parts.
Playable: original rails still bouncing, cloth usable	About $400 to $1,000	A table you can play on now and recloth later
Upgraded: aftermarket rails (Ridgeback, Penguin) and newer cloth	About $1,000 to $1,500	The table league players actually want
Dealer refurbished 7 ft Valley or Dynamo	About $1,300 to $1,600	New cloth, pocket liners, boots and locks, often new rails, set to free play
New Valley Panther (one retailer's list price)	About $6,100 to $8,100	Current coin-op model, see our coin-op guide

The gap between used and new is huge, and that's the opportunity. In one 2023 forum thread an owner paid $1,700 for a Valley delivered, while his installer said bars were paying about $900 for similar tables. Several owners in a 2022 thread advised keeping the purchase under about $500 and budgeting $400 to $700 more for rails and cloth, landing under $1,000 to $1,500 all in.

Why so cheap? Bars and route operators replace tables in batches, there are a lot of them, and the buyer still has to move about 700 pounds of table. For how Valley compares with other used brands, see used pool table prices.

What moves the price up or down

The rails matter most. Original rails on an old bar table are often tired, and a Valley with dead cushions plays like a different game. That's why tables fitted with aftermarket rails sell for two or three times as much in the owner reports. Ask what rails are on it and bank a ball off each one.

After that, in rough order:

Cloth. Burns, tears and bar stains get priced in. New cloth installed runs about $250 to $450 (our refelting cost guide has details).
Slate. Bar Valleys typically use a one-piece slate. A crack or a chipped pocket cut kills the value.
Ball return and separator. Every ball should come back, and the cue ball should come out at its own opening after a scratch.
Coin mechanism. Home buyers want free play; bar buyers want a working coin slot. A table that can do both, with keys, sells easiest.
Cabinet. Laminate over plywood survives bar life well, but water damage at the base of a cabinet that sat on a wet floor is a real problem.
Size. The 7-foot is the classic bar size and the easiest to sell. Current Panthers also come in 6.5 and 8 foot.
Location. A table in a ground-floor bar with a loading door is worth more than the same table in a basement up a turning staircase.

Which Valley do you have?

The current table is the Panther, sold in coin-op and home versions. A dealer spec sheet for the Panther ZD-11 lists these sizes:

Nominal size	Cabinet (L x W x H)	Weight
6.5 ft	88 x 50 x 31 in	652 lb
7 ft	93 x 53 x 31 in	710 lb
8 ft	101 x 56 x 31 in	865 lb (Black Cat finish)

The same sheet describes a 3/4-inch seven-ply plywood cabinet, solid poplar rails with a five-bolt rail system, dual-density rubber by D&R Championship, Championship Teflon Ultra cloth, and a magnetic cue ball separator with no moving parts that uses a cue ball the same size and weight as the object balls. Finishes are Highland Maple and Black Cat.

Older tables are harder to pin down. Valley never published a public model or serial lookup that we could find. What helps:

Measure the cabinet and compare with the table above. Older 7-footers are close in size but not always identical, which matters when buying rails.
Look for a model or ID sticker inside the ball door or cabinet, and note the cue ball type. A table that needs an oversized cue ball is an older size-separation design; a magnetic cue ball points to a magnetic separator.
Ask where it came from. Tables built before the 1999 move were made in Bay City; owners on AZBilliards use that as a rough dividing line for older rail designs.
Dynamo-badged bar tables come from the same company since 1999, and parts suppliers often list Valley and Dynamo parts together.

If you need rails or a separator part, send photos and measurements to a billiard parts supplier rather than ordering by model name alone.

Checking a used Valley before you buy

The general checks are in our used pool table buying guide. A bar Valley adds a few of its own:

Bounce a ball firmly off every rail. Dead spots are the most common problem on old bar tables.
Feel the cloth for ridges or cracks in the one-piece slate, especially around the pockets.
Drop every ball into every pocket and confirm all of them reach the ball box.
Scratch the cue ball into each pocket and make sure it comes back out. If it doesn't, check you have the right cue ball before blaming the separator.
Get the keys for the cash box and ball door, or plan to replace the locks.
Look at the bottom of the cabinet and the legs for water stains and swelling.
Check for loose rail and corner bolts. Owners report them working loose on bar tables. Tightening them is a quick job, but loose ones tell you how the table was looked after.
Work out how it leaves the building before you agree on a price.

How to take apart a Valley pool table

A Valley comes apart more simply than a home table, and most people moving one don't take the slate out at all. Valley doesn't publish a home disassembly manual that we could find, so this is built from owners' and movers' reports. If the table is worth real money to you, hire a billiard mover.

Empty the ball box and remove the cue ball. Take out the coin slide if it's easy to remove, so it can't snag.
Wind the leg levelers all the way up so the threads don't bend.
Decide on slate in or slate out. Owners disagree. Leaving the one-piece slate in the cabinet means fewer lifts and less chance of cracking it; pulling it means a lighter cabinet but a heavy, fragile slab to carry.
If the slate comes out: remove the side trim, unbolt the rails from underneath and mark each rail and its spot so it goes back in the same place. One owner reports a 7/16-inch socket for the rail bolts on his table and threaded inserts in the wood, so don't overtighten on reassembly. Then lift the slate with at least two strong people and carry it on edge, never flat.
With help, tip the table onto its side onto a pool table cart or a sturdy furniture dolly and remove the legs. With the legs off, owners report a bar box fits through a standard doorway.
Wheel it out and strap it upright in the truck, padded with moving blankets.

Two people with a cart can do it, and four is better without one. At the new spot, reverse the steps, then level the table with the leg levelers and check it with a level before the first rack. Our pool table disassembly guide covers home tables with three-piece slate, and moving cost covers what a pro charges.

Living with a Valley at home

Three things to sort out in the first week. Set the table to free play, or you'll be feeding quarters into your own table; the routes are in our coin-op guide. Keep the right cue ball and a spare: a standard cue ball disappears into storage on a magnetic separator (see replacement cue balls). And measure the room: a 7-foot bar table needs about 16 by 13 feet with a standard 57-inch cue, less with a shorter house cue on the tight side. Our room size guide has the chart.

Selling a Valley

Price it from the condition bands above, not from what a new Panther costs. Photograph the rails, every pocket, the cloth and any damage in good light. Say plainly what rails are on it and how the cushions play; buyers will bank a ball off every rail anyway, and a seller who's honest about tired cushions gets believed about everything else.

Include the keys, the correct cue ball, any spare parts and a note on whether it's set to free play. Tell buyers exactly where the table sits and what's between it and the street. Bar owners and league players buy most used Valleys, and both groups know what rails and cloth cost, so a table needing both sells for roughly the upgraded price minus that work.

Sources

Our picks

Links open the current selection and price on Amazon so you can compare real reviews before buying.

Accuplay 20 oz Pre-Cut Cloth for 7 ft Tables

Reclothing a 7-foot Valley

A 75 percent wool, 25 percent polyamide cloth with a 48 by 88 inch bed piece and six 6-inch rail strips, cut for 7-foot tables. New cloth changes how a tired bar table rolls more than anything but rails. Measure your slate before ordering, since bar table beds vary a little.

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Aramith Magnetic Cue Ball

Valleys with a magnetic separator

A phenolic cue ball made for coin-operated tables that sort the cue ball by magnet. If a standard cue ball keeps vanishing into the ball box after a scratch, this is the fix. Check which separation system your table has before ordering.

Amazon price: $32.24 as of 10:58 AM EDT. Price and availability can change; Amazon’s price at purchase applies.

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Sterling Small Gully Boots, Set of 6

Balls hanging up in the pockets

Cracked gully boots are a common reason balls stall on the way to the ball box. Replace all six while the table is open, and compare against your old boots for size first.

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Bar table cushion rubber or rail set

Bringing dead rails back

Dead cushions are the most common problem on a used bar Valley and the one that changes play most. Match the rubber profile and rail length to your table, or send measurements to a parts supplier, before ordering.

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iEsstros 7 Ft Pool Table Cover with Brush

Protecting fresh cloth

Once the table has new cloth, keep dust and drinks off it between sessions. A cover plus regular brushing in one direction keeps the cloth playing like new for longer.

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Frequently asked questions

How much is a used Valley pool table worth?

Roughly $200 to $500 for a worn table needing rails and cloth, about $400 to $1,000 for a playable one, and about $1,000 to $1,700 for a table with upgraded rails and new cloth or a dealer refurbishment. These come from owner and dealer reports and vary by region.

Are Valley pool tables good?

Yes for what they are: tough 6.5, 7 and 8 foot slate bar tables built for years of commercial use. Most APA matches are played on Valley-Dynamo tables and Valley owns the VNEA league, so they are the natural home table for bar league players.

Who makes Valley pool tables now?

Valley-Dynamo, based in Richland Hills, Texas. Brunswick owned the company from 2003 until 2009, when Champion Shuffleboard owner Kelye Stites bought it and moved pool table production back to Texas.

How much does a Valley pool table weigh?

A current Valley Panther weighs about 652 pounds in the 6.5 foot size, 710 pounds in 7 foot and 865 pounds in 8 foot, according to a dealer spec sheet.

How do you take apart a Valley pool table?

Empty the ball box, wind up the levelers, tip the table onto a cart or dolly and remove the legs. Many owners leave the one-piece slate in the cabinet; if you remove it, take the rails off first and mark where each one goes. With the legs off, the cabinet fits through a standard door.

Can you set a Valley pool table to free play?

Yes. Most owners set the coin slide to push without coins or simply leave the ball door unlocked, and Valley sells a home version of the Panther with a start button instead of a coin mechanism.

What is a Harvard pool table worth?

Harvard-branded tables we could find described have MDF beds, which have little resale value. Tap the bed: if it sounds hollow it is not slate. Our used pool table prices guide covers it.

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